What a Shaman Sees in a Mental Hospital

Thanks to Spirit Science

The Shamanic View of Mental Illness

In the shamanic view, mental illness signals “the birth of a healer,” explains Malidoma Patrice Somé.  Thus, mental disorders are spiritual emergencies, spiritual crises, and need to be regarded as such to aid the healer in being born.

What those in the West view as mental illness, the Dagara people regard as “good news from the other world.”  The person going through the crisis has been chosen as a medium for a message to the community that needs to be communicated from the spirit realm.  “Mental disorder, behavioral disorder of all kinds, signal the fact that two obviously incompatible energies have merged into the same field,” says Dr. Somé.  These disturbances result when the person does not get assistance in dealing with the presence of the energy from the spirit realm.

One of the things Dr. Somé encountered when he first came to the United States in 1980 for graduate study was how this country deals with mental illness.  When a fellow student was sent to a mental institute due to “nervous depression,” Dr. Somé went to visit him.

“I was so shocked.  That was the first time I was brought face to face with what is done here to people exhibiting the same symptoms I’ve seen in my village.”  What struck Dr. Somé was that the attention given to such symptoms was based on pathology, on the idea that the condition is something that needs to stop.  This was in complete opposition to the way his culture views such a situation.  As he looked around the stark ward at the patients, some in straitjackets, some zoned out on medications, othersscreaming, he observed to himself, “So this is how the healers who are attempting to be born are treated in this culture.  What a loss!  What a loss that a person who is finally being aligned with a power from the other world is just being wasted.”

Another way to say this, which may make more sense to the Western mind, is that we in the West are not trained in how to deal or even taught to acknowledge the existence of psychic phenomena, the spiritual world.  In fact, psychic abilities are denigrated.  When energies from the spiritual world emerge in a Western psyche, that individual is completely unequipped to integrate them or even recognize what is happening.  The result can be terrifying.  Without the proper context for and assistance in dealing with the breakthrough from another level of reality, for all practical purposes, the person is insane.  Heavy dosing with anti-psychotic drugs compounds the problem and prevents the integration that could lead to soul development and growth in the individual who has received these energies.

On the mental ward, Dr Somé saw a lot of “beings” hanging around the patients, “entities” that are invisible to most people but that shamans and psychics are able to see.  “They were causing the crisis in these people,” he says.  It appeared to him that these beings were trying to get the medications and their effects out of the bodies of the people the beings were trying to merge with, and were increasing the patients’ pain in the process.  “The beings were acting almost like some kind of excavator in the energy field of people.  They were really fierce about that.  The people they were doing that to were just screaming and yelling,” he said.  He couldn’t stay in that environment and had to leave.

In the Dagara tradition, the community helps the person reconcile the energies of both worlds–”the world of the spirit that he or she is merged with, and the village and community.”  That person is able then to serve as a bridge between the worlds and help the living with information and healing they need.  Thus, the spiritual crisis ends with the birth of another healer.  “The other world’s relationship with our world is one of sponsorship,” Dr. Somé explains.  “More often than not, the knowledge and skills that arise from this kind of merger are a knowledge or a skill that is provided directly from the other world.”

The beings who were increasing the pain of the inmates on the mental hospital ward were actually attempting to merge with the inmates in order to get messages through to this world.  The people they had chosen to merge with were getting no assistance in learning how to be a bridge between the worlds and the beings’ attempts to merge were thwarted.  The result was the sustaining of the initial disorder of energy and the aborting of the birth of a healer.

“The Western culture has consistently ignored the birth of the healer,” states Dr. Somé.  “Consequently, there will be a tendency from the other world to keep trying as many people as possible in an attempt to get somebody’s attention.  They have to try harder.”  The spirits are drawn to people whose senses have not been anesthetized.  “The sensitivity is pretty much read as an invitation to come in,” he notes.

Those who develop so-called mental disorders are those who are sensitive, which is viewed in Western culture as oversensitivity.  Indigenous cultures don’t see it that way and, as a result, sensitive people don’t experience themselves as overly sensitive.  In the West, “it is the overload of the culture they’re in that is just wrecking them,” observes Dr. Somé.  The frenetic pace, the bombardment of the senses, and the violent energy that characterize Western culture can overwhelm sensitive people.

Schizophrenia and Foreign Energy

With schizophrenia, there is a special “receptivity to a flow of images and information, which cannot be controlled,” stated Dr. Somé.  “When this kind of rush occurs at a time that is not personally chosen, and particularly when it comes with images that are scary and contradictory, the person goes into a frenzy.”

What is required in this situation is first to separate the person’s energy from the extraneous foreign energies, by using shamanic practice (what is known as a “sweep”) to clear the latter out of the individual’s aura.  With the clearing of their energy field, the person no longer picks up a flood of information and so no longer has a reason to be scared and disturbed, explains Dr. Somé.

Then it is possible to help the person align with the energy of the spirit being attempting to come through from the other world and give birth to the healer.  The blockage of that emergence is what creates problems.  “The energy of the healer is a high-voltage energy,” he observes.  “When it is blocked, it just burns up the person.  It’s like a short-circuit.  Fuses are blowing.  This is why it can be really scary, and I understand why this culture prefers to confine these people.  Here they are yelling and screaming, and they’re put into a straitjacket.  That’s a sad image.”  Again, the shamanic approach is to work on aligning the energies so there is no blockage, “fuses” aren’t blowing, and the person can become the healer they are meant to be.

It needs to be noted at this point, however, that not all of the spirit beings that enter a person’s energetic field are there for the purposes of promoting healing.  There are negative energies as well, which are undesirable presences in the aura.  In those cases, the shamanic approach is to remove them from the aura, rather than work to align the discordant energies.

Alex:  Crazy in the USA, Healer in Africa

To test his belief that the shamanic view of mental illness holds true in the Western world as well as in indigenous cultures, Dr. Somé took a mental patient back to Africa with him, to his village.  “I was prompted by my own curiosity to find out whether there’s truth in the universality that mental illness could be connected with an alignment with a being from another world,” says Dr. Somé.

Alex was an 18-year-old American who had suffered a psychotic break when he was 14.  He had hallucinations, was suicidal, and went through cycles of dangerously severe depression.  He was in a mental hospital and had been given a lot of drugs, but nothing was helping.  “The parents had done everything–unsuccessfully,” says Dr. Somé.  “They didn’t know what else to do.”

With their permission, Dr. Somé took their son to Africa.  “After eight months there, Alex had become quite normal, Dr. Somé reports.  He was even able to participate with healers in the business of healing; sitting with them all day long and helping them, assisting them in what they were doing with their clients . . . . He spent about four years in my village.”  Alex stayed by choice, not because he needed more healing.  He felt, “much safer in the village than in America.”

To bring his energy and that of the being from the spiritual realm into alignment, Alex went through a shamanic ritual designed for that purpose, although it was slightly different from the one used with the Dagara people.  “He wasn’t born in the village, so something else applied.  But the result was similar, even though the ritual was not literally the same,” explains Dr. Somé.  The fact that aligning the energy worked to heal Alex demonstrated to Dr. Somé that the connection between other beings and mental illness is indeed universal.

After the ritual, Alex began to share the messages that the spirit being had for this world.  Unfortunately, the people he was talking to didn’t speak English (Dr. Somé was away at that point).  The whole experience led, however, to Alex’s going to college to study psychology.  He returned to the United States after four years because “he discovered that all the things that he needed to do had been done, and he could then move on with his life.”

The last that Dr. Somé heard was that Alex was in graduate school in psychology at Harvard.  No one had thought he would ever be able to complete undergraduate studies, much less get an advanced degree.

Dr. Somé sums up what Alex’s mental illness was all about:  “He was reaching out.  It was an emergency call.  His job and his purpose was to be a healer.  He said no one was paying attention to that.”

After seeing how well the shamanic approach worked for Alex, Dr. Somé concluded that spirit beings are just as much an issue in the West as in his community in Africa.  “Yet the question still remains, the answer to this problem must be found here, instead of having to go all the way overseas to seek the answer.  There has to be a way in which a little bit of attention beyond the pathology of this whole experience leads to the possibility of coming up with the proper ritual to help people.

Longing for Spiritual Connection

A common thread that Dr. Somé has noticed in “mental” disorders in the West is “a very ancient ancestral energy that has been placed in stasis, that finally is coming out in the person.”  His job then is to trace it back, to go back in time to discover what that spirit is.  In most cases, the spirit is connected to nature, especially with mountains or big rivers, he says.

In the case of mountains, as an example to explain the phenomenon, “it’s a spirit of the mountain that is walking side by side with the person and, as a result, creating a time-space distortion that is affecting the person caught in it.”  What is needed is a merger or alignment of the two energies, “so the person and the mountain spirit become one.”  Again, the shaman conducts a specific ritual to bring about this alignment.

Dr. Somé believes that he encounters this situation so often in the United States because “most of the fabric of this country is made up of the energy of the machine, and the result of that is the disconnection and the severing of the past.  You can run from the past, but you can’t hide from it.”  The ancestral spirit of the natural world comes visiting.  “It’s not so much what the spirit wants as it is what the person wants,” he says.  “The spirit sees in us a call for something grand, something that will make life meaningful, and so the spirit is responding to that.”

That call, which we don’t even know we are making, reflects “a strong longing for a profound connection, a connection that transcends materialism and possession of things and moves into a tangible cosmic dimension.  Most of this longing is unconscious, but for spirits, conscious or unconscious doesn’t make any difference.”  They respond to either.

As part of the ritual to merge the mountain and human energy, those who are receiving the “mountain energy” are sent to a mountain area of their choice, where they pick up a stone that calls to them.  They bring that stone back for the rest of the ritual and then keep it as a companion; some even carry it around with them.  “The presence of the stone does a lot in tuning the perceptive ability of the person,” notes Dr. Somé.  “They receive all kinds of information that they can make use of, so it’s like they get some tangible guidance from the other world as to how to live their life.”

When it is the “river energy,” those being called go to the river and, after speaking to the river spirit, find a water stone to bring back for the same kind of ritual as with the mountain spirit.

“People think something extraordinary must be done in an extraordinary situation like this,” he says.  That’s not usually the case.  Sometimes it is as simple as carrying a stone.


A Sacred Ritual Approach to Mental Illness

One of the gifts a shaman can bring to the Western world is to help people rediscover ritual, which is so sadly lacking.  “The abandonment of ritual can be devastating.  From the spiritual view, ritual is inevitable and necessary if one is to live,” Dr. Somé writes in Ritual:  Power, Healing, and Community. “To say that ritual is needed in the industrialized world is an understatement.  We have seen in my own people that it is probably impossible to live a sane life without it.”

Dr. Somé did not feel that the rituals from his traditional village could simply be transferred to the West, so over his years of shamanic work here, he has designed rituals that meet the very different needs of this culture.  Although the rituals change according to the individual or the group involved, he finds that there is a need for certain rituals in general.

One of these involves helping people discover that their distress is coming from the fact that they are “called by beings from the other world to cooperate with them in doing healing work.”  Ritual allows them to move out of the distress and accept that calling.

Another ritual need relates to initiation.  In indigenous cultures all over the world, young people are initiated into adulthood when they reach a certain age.  The lack of such initiation in the West is part of the crisis that people are in here, says Dr. Somé.  He urges communities to bring together “the creative juices of people who have had this kind of experience, in an attempt to come up with some kind of an alternative ritual that would at least begin to put a dent in this kind of crisis.”

Another ritual that repeatedly speaks to the needs of those coming to him for help entails making a bonfire, and then putting into the bonfire “items that are symbolic of issues carried inside the individuals . . . It might be the issues of anger and frustration against an ancestor who has left a legacy of murder and enslavement or anything, things that the descendant has to live with,” he explains.  “If these are approached as things that are blocking the human imagination, the person’s life purpose, and even the person’s view of life as something that can improve, then it makes sense to begin thinking in terms of how to turn that blockage into a roadway that can lead to something more creative and more fulfilling.”

The example of issues with an ancestors touches on rituals designed by Dr. Somé that address a serious dysfunction in Western society and in the process “trigger enlightenment” in participants.  These are ancestral rituals, and the dysfunction they are aimed at is the mass turning-of-the-back on ancestors.  Some of the spirits trying to come through, as described earlier, may be “ancestors who want to merge with a descendant in an attempt to heal what they weren’t able to do while in their physical body.”

“Unless the relationship between the living and the dead is in balance, chaos ensues,” he says.  “The Dagara believe that, if such an imbalance exists, it is the duty of the living to heal their ancestors.  If these ancestors are not healed, their sick energy will haunt the souls and psyches of those who are responsible for helping them.”  The rituals focus on healing the relationship with our ancestors, both specific issues of an individual ancestor and the larger cultural issues contained in our past.  Dr. Somé has seen extraordinary healing occur at these rituals.

Taking a sacred ritual approach to mental illness rather than regarding the person as a pathological case gives the person affected–and indeed the community at large–the opportunity to begin looking at it from that vantage point too, which leads to “a whole plethora of opportunities and ritual initiative that can be very, very beneficial to everyone present,” states. Dr. Somé.

The Shamanic View of Mental Illness

by Stephanie Marohn (featuring Malidoma Patrice Somé)

(Excerpted from The Natural Medicine Guide to Schizophrenia,

pages 178-189, or The Natural Medicine Guide to Bi-polar Disorder)

37 thoughts on “What a Shaman Sees in a Mental Hospital

  1. Wow, Shannon. I forwarded this to someone who is close to being an example of this. I’ve always been amazed he functions as well as he does, given his bi-polar, schizophrenia and I don’t know what all. He’s been in and out of hospitals but is Mensa-level intelligent and has visions and journeys into the spiritual world frequently. He’s done some work with a Navajo shaman. Thanks for writing this so I could send it to him. It validates what he goes through and the importance of it, disjointed though it is, as he’s frowned upon for his periods of difficulty in adjusting and functioning.

    • You’re so welcome Judi! I don’t know for sure… even being a nurse, I specialize in neonatology – not mental health. But from what I’ve seen way back in nursing college and now, too, it just seems like it’s something I’ve thought about for a long time. And now I ran across this article today at Spirit Science, and it seemed to confirm the thoughts that I’ve always had on the subject. I don’t know – but is resonates with me. Maybe not for ALL of the mentally ill. But maybe for a lot of them.

  2. This makes complete sense when compared to the thoughts I had when deciding to take medication. I thought I had just had a psychic break-through, and needed to find a psychic to argue this for me. I was afraid through that the government would make me suffer if I resisted medication, because psychics can be dangerous to maintaining order. I felt if I resisted, I would be forced to take the medication. Later Doctors told me scary stories of what would happen if I ever went off the medication. So I have been medicated since diagnosed, even though I sometimes felt the need to see if I could survive without medication. I wanted to see if I was just extremely psychic and was overwhelmed by the sudden changes. I’d like to go be taken to Africa to see if what worked for Alex would work for me.

    • I too took medication when I was younger.. My Ex husband told my daughter I would die if I did not take it… So when I came off of it My daughter freaked out… Yet the stability of my current marriage and his understanding if my journeys allowed me to heal the past with my ancestors and yes my daughter and I are fantastic now! Even my x cannot believe what a well grounded person I am now.. I think each if us who has had this experience goes through periods of much support to bring up all dimensions ..as I enter into the 13th dimension pretty easy now.. One that was thought of as inaccessible before .. Reading peoples minds was just the tip if the iceberg into the ancient world for me.. Yet it can be very scary for us and those around us when we are out if balance .. Much love to all who have been given this path Heart to heart Robyn

      • I got both books listed at the end of the article on Kindle. I am reading the first. I am scared. I have much to lose. I am just starting to get better…. in some ways. If I fail then it is troublesome for family. How will I ever convince them? First I will read the books.

        • yes..read the books…and I recommend that this is a step by step process..sometimes when we are away from family it is easier..yet finding your own balance is crucial to the acceptance from family at this time.. in your process of healing…sometimes they never understand..so I have let go of my expectations of others..read books on being self-actualized as well..I also am a believer in stress reducers like quiet time without too much activity..and you want to stay as stable as you can for now..sometimes it takes many years on medicine my friend..stay as positive as you can and keep staying balanced..even if on medicine for now…you can write me anytime as well… (doing drastic things right now is not a good thing for you) Do accept yourself exactly as YOU ARE..and do not feel bad for taking medicine…It is helping your balance for now….I was in my late 40’s before my life was stable enough to get off medication…having healed up my past.. I went well into my 50’s before I came to total self acceptance…letting go of fear is a process you will go through..in your own time with support from your family or not..yet its OK to BE exactly where you are..that is the key to healing! Heart to Heart Robyn

          • Taking things slow is a good idea. My stability is needed right now. I am helping out family. I also cannot afford a high amount of alternative healthcare. Your commend relieved me quite a bit.

            • Yes Laura is peacenowflower… As I found your blog Shannon several weeks ago.. I have been reading through the posts of yours.. As far as my NDE I remember it like it was yesterday! It was a great day my family and I were going up to my grandparents cabin in Northern Michigan … 2 1/2 hours from our home My brother was 6 .. I was 4 ..my two sisters 2 and 6months old… Dad was not prepared to have the issues he was having with no water in the cabin.. So he opened up the dry well to see if he could get the water turned on.. I was playing with my brother on the other side of the cabin Mom was changing diapers inside and Dad had walked to a tool shed to get a tool… My brother and I saw a swarm of bees in the front of the cabin come at us …where the well was …and I ran backwards straight into a 16 foot dry well… I stood up as my father screamed do not climb up …I am coming to get you! My father brought me into the cabin screaming at my brother and mother… Saying you left them alone .. I told you they could not go outside.. At this point I had already been reading minds and I knew my father meant business! This was serious to him… Yet I felt absolutely NO PAIN and as blood was coming out of my ears ..I lifted out of my body… My father became the ambulance to the nearest hospital .. As I watched in complete peace as they wrapped my head in a towel.. And told my father we can do nothing here.. (I remember these words) We got back in the car as Dad said he could drive faster to the nearest neurosurgeon .. And he was correct .. I was physically laying in the back seat at this time.. Blood everywhere.. And mom had passed out… I was in complete bliss where I was.. So I was a little confused by my fathers panic on his face.. Two hours later ( as time stood still)( I was told the timing later ) The only neurosurgeon in 300 miles saw me .. He was in our home town hospital …The year was 1950… Now I was in the corner of the room watching the surgery.. No time .. No pain.. Simply watching.. Thinking .. Why are they working on my head so fast.. I was fine… I could also see my mother in the waiting room .. Sound asleep.. I think they gave her some medicine .. Dad was pacing ! Now I began to go into the light even more… Seeing this beautiful group of angels coming and surrounding me.. I saw my Dads mothers mother( which I saw as a young person in a picture much later on )..put out her hand.. All was in silence and a feeling of no age.. eternal bliss ..came over me… I had no age ..and I was just aware of “coming home”… Then BOOM I heard this big voice say “I want you to choose to go back.. You are not done”! I argued .. Even though it was as if I Knew that it was not my time” ..That I would go back and teach forgiveness.. someday I would no why.. The next thing Ut was Bam again.. I was back in my body. . In a crib with my head shaved… NEVER any pain and it was as if my head had healed by itself… I do have a dent in my head… Yet they told my parents “IF”I lived I may never walk ..talk ..or eat .. Having a normal life probably impossible Yet “miracle ” they called me.. As I never even had a day of rehab for anything .. 3 days of observation in the hospital and off to my home… I know that this sounds a bit trite yet I looked at it like it was completely normal what I experienced ..until I was much older.. And people started to share with me there pain of “the loss” of a loved one.. That’s when I started to tap the spirit world more and realized that everyone did not talk to spirits like I did.. ( I was raised in an upper middle class family where what your degree was .. Far more important than talking to dead people.. My dad was a a photographic memory .. Yet he was a lawyer .. So he would say.. Do not talk about that stuff.. So I had my first psychotic break at 19 years old and my father could not even visit me… I had two other breaks in “3D” which I now see as GIFTS .. As the gifts I had been given were seeking there way out…for me this 3D experience is the dream .. And 5D love is real…many years later spirits keep coming to me to give me messages and I welcome them.. I only have high beings with good intentions come to me as I have made peace with my ancestors.. I was told that because I chose to come back …I broke the chains of pain for all future generations.. They said my father would have taken his life. I was told some spirits will only come in for a day… Some for over 100 years.. I was not responsible for how long someone came in for.. Just to guide them with my energy field .. to instantly heal.. If this was there calling This was never a plan for me ..as I worked for years to “hide out” and be traditional.. Yet now is the time for me to come forward to help in our ascension.. A gatekeeper and way seer.. My girls (2 step children and my birth daughter) were brought into my life “genius” with all of the challenges that brings.. Yet they live with very little fear.. To be here completely as they were chosen to be.. Even when people would call them crazy.. They are changing the world .. One idea at a time.. Most days are very easy for me now as I can be with anything easily.. As I have known .. I have chosen it all.. This was a very long comment .. Yet I wanted to share with you my experience.. Heart to heart Robyn

    • Yes, I thought of you when I read this, too, because I know it’s something that you’ve struggled with for a long time. I bet many people feel as you do. One trouble, though, is that now that you’re on the medication, you’d have to get through the withdrawal period in order to even see if it’s something that would work for you. And to do that, you’d need the support of someone who understood. Then, as the shamans do, you’d need to have a “shaman-like” person to guide you through to the spiritual side of things.

      So my point is, that without a complete change in lifestyle and living situation (perhaps you’d have to move), this is just not something that our current community supports. Someday, though, I hope that it does. Someday SOON 😉

  3. Thank you for posting this!!!!.. I had this experience 3 times when I was younger… Realizing I was taping into the unknown off my ancestors ..later on I was able to heal it.. Even after having a profound near death experience as a 4 year old.. I was so far gone when I I entered what I call the tunnel of 4D where the magical world exists.. along with all the pain of mine and my ancestors ..somehow I was able to cross over to be grounded in 3D from 5D now ..and continue with the balance of that vibration.. Releasing the past… Thanks again for posting! Heart to heart Robyn

    • You are so welcome! As my main interest is in NDE’s, do you remember a lot of details from yours’? It sounds like you have been on quite the journey in this lifetime!

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    Excerpt: “In the Dagara tradition, the community helps the person reconcile the energies of both worlds–”the world of the spirit that he or she is merged with, and the village and community.” That person is able then to serve as a bridge between the worlds and help the living with information and healing they need. Thus, the spiritual crisis ends with the birth of another healer. “The other world’s relationship with our world is one of sponsorship,” Dr. Somé explains. “More often than not, the knowledge and skills that arise from this kind of merger are a knowledge or a skill that is provided directly from the other world.”

    The beings who were increasing the pain of the inmates on the mental hospital ward were actually attempting to merge with the inmates in order to get messages through to this world. The people they had chosen to merge with were getting no assistance in learning how to be a bridge between the worlds and the beings’ attempts to merge were thwarted. The result was the sustaining of the initial disorder of energy and the aborting of the birth of a healer.”

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  6. Wonderfully enlightening post, that resonates with ones inner knowing, very big thank you for sharing, sincere regards, Barry

  7. Thank you. I have healed myself from anorexia and have seen this so up close with my family which has a long history of bipolar. I am looking deeply into my own healing and sharing what I know. I have written a little book about my healing that I am working on printing. I struggled for a long time with traditional therapists with my eating disorder until they gave up and I had to search out healers. I was able to heal completely what seemed incurable..much like the story here.

    • That’s awesome Laurie! It seems like a lot of people are really resonating with this article – as I did, too. I have always felt – my whole life (not just since reading about things like this) that mental illness could be something different from what we think. I will be very glad when a more open-minded approach is taken to this kind of healing. So my question to you is (and I apologize but I haven’t gone and taken a look at your site yet) …do you now teach others how to heal from their eating disorders the way someone taught you? Because that may have been the cause for that journey for you 🙂

  8. Shannon.I realized I was on my phone (when i replied to Laura (PNF)) and things were not in sequence…I am glad you were able to get the message about my NDE…connecting with so many who are on the journey of divine calling…I really appreciate your comments…I am glad I came back as well! I had never written about My NDE before…so that was good for me to express it…I feel so blessed to BE CLEAR…and assist on our vibrational journey….I currently live in Maui…leaving Michigan on my journey west in 1983 ..living 24 years in California..10 years here now…Michigan will always be in my heart…and ironically one of my sisters… brother and I will someday get a cabin in Michigan…as my siblings and I have fond memories of the cabin after the NDE… we continued to return and loved our family time there…I was from Muskegon..and My NDE was in Ludington … Mush love to you Heart to Heart Robyn (just a side note the well that I FELL IN WAS CEMENTED SHUT NEVER TO BE OPENED AGAIN!)

    • Maui, aye?!? Sounds nice! There are some things I absolutely LOVE about Michigan! …Except the winter time.

      I think a lot of people find it really nice to talk about their experience. I read them (I have read all 3700 of them) on NDERF, and many people comment that they were glad for the experience of filling out their (very long and detailed) questionnaire. Perhaps you should write about yours on your blog?

  9. What a great article. A couple of years ago I too was pondering about this subject of “mental illness” because someone close to me has been suffering from mental illness and now they’re being supressed by medicine. I thought back then that they had no control of their power and they tapped into other dimensions and just saw and heard things which we could not hear or see. I was hoping that there would be an alternative cure…

    Modern society and modern healthcare just doesn’t understand human as as a whole. There seems to be a pill for everything, but have forgotten the healing works of shamans and plant medicine. I too hope that all of this will get much better soon, because the current state of affairs is really saddening on many levels.

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  11. Thank you for the information. I have story the natural medicine and plants for many years, We can learn a lot from the shaman and Nagual. I was saved years ago by a kind Apache Medicine man. I use the old cures still. My Ojibwa Grandmother taught me many items in our home. Can heal the simple pain and sicknesses. The mind walked on the edge and is tender. Sometime madness is just self-protection.

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